The plastics industry is spending more than $1 million to fight a surcharge on grocery bags in Seattle.
In an effort to reduce plastic and paper waste, the city council imposed the 20-cent-per-bag charge last year; but the American Chemistry Council(ACC) helped fund a petition drive that forced the issue to a city-wide ballot.
Heather Trim, a volunteer for the Seattle Green Bag Campaign, carries around a sample of polluted Pacific Ocean water. She says the ocean's "Great Garbage Patch" of non-biodegradable plastic fragments is the reason for her opposition to disposable plastic bags.
That vote is coming up on Aug. 18, and the ACC has contributed approximately $1.4 million for an ad campaign against the grocery bag surcharge.
Seattle is not the first city to try to discourage the use of the bags. San Francisco imposed a partial ban on plastic bags, and Palo Alto and the Seattle suburb of Edmonds have banned the bags outright. But Seattle is the biggest city in the U.S. that's tried to put this kind of fee on bags.
'Great Garbage Patch'
The campaign against the plastic bags comes out of environmentalists' concerns over "the great garbage patch," a huge slick of microscopic bits of non-biodegradable plastic that is circulating in the Pacific Ocean.
Heather Trim, a volunteer with the Seattle Green Bag Campaign, carries a vial of cloudy seawater in her purse as a visual aid.
"Our plastics are accumulating out there," Trim says.
An estimated 20 to 30 percent of Seattle shoppers bring reusable bags to the store — far higher than most of the country — but environmentalists here want that number to grow. Trim says the surcharge, which she calls a "fee," is the best way to do this.
Opponents call it a 20 cent "tax."
"I carry recyclable bags in my car every day — always with me," says Jane Petrich, outside of a QFC grocery store near the University of Washington. "And 80 percent of the time I forget to take them in with me. But they're in my car!"
If the bags cost 20 cents apiece, she says, she would remember to bring her own bags for sure. Nevertheless, she doesn't like the idea. She says the "tax," as she sees it, would fall hardest on poor shoppers.
That's the message of the plastic bag makers. Ads on local radio — paid for with money from the American Chemistry Council — dramatize a husband and wife, lamenting the dawn of a new tax.
"A tax on grocery bags is not what we need in this economy," says the announcer.
Business groups have also criticized the proposed ordinance as poorly written, saying it would create a new city bureaucracy to oversee the bag surcharge.
Plastic bags represent only a tiny fraction of 1 percent of the city's garbage, they say, and many of those bags are actually being reused to hold the garbage itself. (Paper bags are also subject to the surcharge, but the paper industry has largely stayed out of debate. The city ordinance includes paper bags primarily to make sure stores don't just shift from plastic to paper to get around the surcharge.)
Steve Russell, the managing director of the American Chemistry Council's Plastics Division, calls the vote in Seattle "an important battle."
"There are ways to achieve what we all agree is the goal of more recycled material that doesn't punish people on fixed incomes or people less able to pay those kinds of fees," he says.
Karen Millen
Since this spring, when it seemed that green advice was literally everywhere, I've noticed that the grocery store I use the most has been practically stuffing plastic bags into our pockets.
They suddenly stopped offering paper bags with handles, and any plastic bags were packed with three items max - no matter how light. When I bring my own bag, I inevitably discover the bagger has wrapped eggs or vegetables in a plastic bag. I've actually complained that they seem obsessed with making sure we don't leave the store without a plastic bag.
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1Health Surtax: “No, it’s not punishing the rich. If I can afford to do a little bit more so that a whole bunch of families out there have a little more security, when I already have security, that’s part of being a community."
Steph - I've noticed that too re: the hidden plastic bag... I'm sure they were just taught that at bag packing training or whatever, but I still get irratated and sometimes I just want to say, No plastic means NO PLASTIC. It seems like this is something the baggers and just checkout people in general need to be on board with since they are in the habit of giving the bag.
However, 20 cents is kind of a lot! Sometimes you just plain forget! Is this only at grocery stores or every store? I always ask for no bag when I go into the drugstore or whatever, but sometimes there's a line and the stuff is already in the bag so you get stuck with one.
Could we maybe instead of charging 20 cents, maybe work on a plan that would allow plastic bags to go in with the regular curbside recycling?
2I think most of the negative environmental impact of plastic bags comes in the manufacturing of them, so recycling them would not help.
The baggers are good at my grocery store. I use the Whole Foods bags when I do my grocery shopping and the baggers always ask before they put something like meat or eggs in a plastic bag.
20 cents is a lot, but you can opt for paper if you aren't bringing your own bags and don't want to pay the money for the plastic ones. The paper ones are fine as long as they have a handle.
3Eh, I used to live on the 4th floor with no elevator... paper did not work for me. I needed something I could grab like 4 at a time.
Where does the 20 cents go? To the state? To the store?
What if the store charged the 20 cents but then gave a voucher for a free bag after the customer paid for say 5 plastic bags? (I'm going by the fact that my reusables cost 1 dollar each). I think there's a possibility that a lot of people don't have the bags and don't like the idea of putting the cash down to buy them, if we can take that away maybe we'll get more bags out there.
Or maybe we could start a cubby system at your local grocery store
420 cents is a little steep...but I've stopped using plastic bags almost altogether. I either use the reusable bags or carry stuff out in my hands (if it's only a few items).
Plus I have a Sephora shopping bag folded up in my purse at all times so if I forget the reusable bags in my car I can always pull that out!
5From their website: "And the ordinance clearly states that stores with NAICS codes (stores that sell groceries and/or drugstore items as well as superstores) are included"
So I'm guessing this means that clothing stores are excluded. If we're going to ban them, I say ban em all!
Also it says paper bags are included in the fee: "Overall, paper bags have a significantly worse environmental footprint than plastic bags. Paper bags are heavier (about 10 times heavier) and thus are more carbon consumptive product than plastic, making them a poor choice to replace plastic bags. Furthermore, the United States cuts down 14 million trees per year simply to supply the demand for paper shopping bags."
6I live in Seattle, and I can tell you....go down to the beach (well, what we call a beach here!
) and you will see so a lot of trash, including plastic bags. Many stores have had promotions where they gave away free reusable bags, and
many have them on special for 99 cents.
Lots of stores have started getting creative and are actually giving a 10 cent rebate on your grocery bill for each reusable bag you bring in.
I have just gotten in the habit of bringing my own bag. I am on the fence as far as supporting this or not, and need to make up my mind quick!
7I'd rather see a rebate than a penalty. I'm all about positive reinforcement!
8I think Whole Foods does that...you get the option of a discount or a donation.
9I like the rebate option, too, haus!
Yeah, sarah, when I go to Whole Foods, I get to choose one of 3 organizations to donate by bag rebate to - I always choose the farmer's market fund!
LOVE farmer's markets!
10oh i like that donation idea!
11i bet you even if they worded this differently more people would be on board...
like instead of saying "plastic bags will be taxed 20 cents each"
it could be "when you get a plastic bag you are agreeing to donate 20 cents to the Clean Water Fund (or whatever)"
12but i guess some people wouldn't think to stop then if they knew the money was going to a good cause.
13I like the donation idea too. I haven't been to WF in a while but when I did go I donated to an education or teacher organization...cause my mom's a teacher.
14I can also see people choosing not to donate if they didn't like the choices of charities to donate to. Like..."I won't donate to so and so because they're funded by blah de blah".
15Well, I have been trying to find out what happens to this 20 cent "tax" to make my final decision. If it goes to a good cause, I am all for it (like beach cleanup and clean water, etc.). I have to actually get the proposal itself and read it.
16This isn't really here nor there but yesterday at the grocery store the checker filled each of my canvass bags halfway and then put the rest into a plastic bag when the rest of my groceries definitely would have fit in the bags I brought. It annoyed me, but I reuse the plastic ones for kitty litter and the paper ones for composting anyways so it doesn't really bother me.
17Martini I got your back!
From the website:
What happens to the 20 cent fee?
Most of the funds collected would go to Seattle Public utilities to pay for an educational campaign and encouraging consumers to use reusable bags, a bag giveaway program for soup kitchens, low income families and those who need assistance, and to offset the costs of solid waste and recycling programs in Seattle.
Stores would keep five cents of every twenty cents collected as a way to cover the administrative cost of the program. Smaller stores, with less than one million in revenues, would actually keep the entire fee.
18Oh, also, a store in my area just stopped offering plastic bags. They sell the resuable ones for 99 cents.
19The really good reusable bags at whole fodds only cost 99 cents and they fit a ton of stuff. I have the same experience with them underfilling my bags at the grocery store. I think they are trained to not make the bags overly heavy.
I get 5 cents back for each bag I use at the grocery store. I also think they should reward rather than punish. I don't think people are continuing to use plastic to be sinister.
20""Killing the Earth...one plastic bag at a time!!!"
21I use mine for kitteh litter. The publix ones are the best, wal mart brand stinks.
22Target bags are my favorite for dog poop, but I feel bad that they are so thick and big for such a small job. I'm always torn between whether it's better to buy the bags just for dog poo.
23You guys need a litter locker! Kinda like a diaper genie but for cat poo.
24Wait, what's the purpose of that?
25blues, I am so cheap, I just walk that bag out to the dumpster everyday!
26Wow. I have no idea how to explain that thing!
27"San Francisco imposed a partial ban"
If I'm not mistaken S.F. has imposed the use of an environmentally friendly more expensive bag on small retailers. This was especially a concern for cafes, fast food etc. because they obviously were going to pass the cost on to their consumers and they thought it would hurt their business. Fortunately for them the majority of consumers supported the idea, must be that San Francisco values thing.
As for (grocery stores) in S.F. I do believe the rule is paper only.
28Thanks, haus!! I knew I could count on you!
I think I might be voting for this fee...
You know the weird thing out here? They try to bag your milk - the big gallon jug with a handle. What's up with THAT? It has a handle on it for a reason...
29Ok I'm gonna give it a go....
So there's a ring right under the lid that is stuffed with a plastic tube of sorts. Inside is a wheel...you attach the plastic bag to the wheel. Scoop the poo inside...and then twist the wheel to kinda seal off the litter. When it's full, tear off the tube, tie it in a knot and throw it out.
Does that make sense? You should see me making descriptive motions with my hands!
30Blues, I just tell people those things are Poo Sausage makers.
31They definitely look sausage-like...one giant, poo filled sausage!
32I HAVE THAT, SARAH! I LOVE IT!
(so much, in fact, that I had to post in ALL CAPS!!!)
33Well it's not true unless it's CAPS AND BOLD Amy. So I don't believe you!
34I always those diaper genies just make a bad problem worse. as if disposable diapers couldn't be any more harmful to the environment... wrap in another plastic bag!
i will never purchase one of those.
(plus i can never figure out how to use it)
35insert "thought" between always and those
36I'm ashamed to admit I've been horrible about recycling- it's very easy to put off. A few weeks ago, however my two sons and I ran across a referance to the great pacific garbage patch and looked it up. It is horrifying! It's literally the size of AUSTRALIA and growing constantly. All of the fish are ingesting the plastic and making our seafood toxic. If we don't make this a priority, our children won't even be able to eat fish! To think this atrocity can be ignored is really shortsighted- we need to get this cleaned up and if a 20 cent per bag charge can help us get started I don't think that's too much to put back into the ocean and it's inhabitants- ESPECIALLY since our future hinges on it. BTW at my local grocery store you purchase your grocery bags anyway- AND the paper bags are cheaper! Most grocer stores offer large reusable fabric bags for pretty cheap-it's a onetime (small) investment!
37I agree Haus about the diaper genies. I think they are useless and more trouble than they are worth. Its much easier to just walk a really offensive diaper out to the garbage can.
38Or better yet, get your spouse to take it out.
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