Washington state is joining dozens of other states in protecting the rights of mothers who breast-feed their children in public places like movie theaters, parks and shopping malls. The new law, which takes effect Sunday, builds on a 2001 law that exempted breast-feeding from public indecency laws. But until now, nothing prevented businesses from asking women to leave or to cover up while breast-feeding.
Kim Rechner, a 42-year-old mother of two, said she was breast-feeding while waiting for her car at a tire store when she was told by an employee that she needed to do it in the bathroom, an experience she said was humiliating. "You certainly do not feel like you're doing anything shameful by feeding your child, and yet you are made to feel as though what you are doing is inappropriate," said Rechner, a registered nurse who lives in Olympia. "And that's really sad."
Rep. Tami Green, the Tacoma Democrat who sponsored the bill, said the new law will help "jump start the culture of change."
"Women should feel as comfortable to sit down and breast-feed their child as they would be pulling a bottle out of the diaper bag," she said.
Kimberly Radtke, program coordinator for the Breastfeeding Coalition of Washington, said she hopes the law educates people who feel uncomfortable when they see women nurse their children. "It's not just that women are asked to go somewhere else or are asked to stop, it's those looks and glares that women have to deal with, people looking at them or rolling their eyes," she said.
"The reality is young babies need to eat frequently, and you need to feed that baby when you're out and about."
Laura Lindstrand, a civil rights specialist with the state's Human Rights Commission, said the agency plans to make wallet cards with information on the new law that women can carry with them. If a woman is asked to leave or cover up because she's breast-feeding, Lindstrand said the expectation is that once a woman shows the card, "we're hoping that will diffuse the situation at that point." If it doesn't, a complaint can be filed with the commission, which will then investigate and try to settle it. If several attempts at mediation fail, Lindstrom said a complaint can then be filed to the state attorney general's office.
"We do not anticipate that there will be many cases brought," she said. "We hope through an educational campaign, and through the wallet cards, that any such cases would be diffused."
More than 40 other states have laws protecting a mother's right to breast-feed in public.
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I just think it would be nice if those women who choose to breastfeed in public would exercise a little modesty, and not "whip it out" like my sister-in-law. I understand that children need to eat, but it doesn't need to be dinner and a show.
1Sorry UnDave, but breasts are meant for feeding. Period.
2True, and I understand that. However, you don't need to take the shirt completely off to feed.
3Im not aware of the typical woman taking her shirt completely off to feed. I personaly chose to be as modes while feeding my children, but I am also no uncomfortable at the sight of a nuring baby and mother. Also, I am aware of many woman feeding under normal circumstances and being asked to stopped due to making others uncomfortbale, so I am happy for this law.
4You obviuosily have not met my sister-in-law.
5You are correct, I have not met your sister-in-law. But, I encourage a law that allows breast feeding woman the freedom to feed their babies without shame and persecution.
6I'm glad its a law. I breast fed. It's cheap and easy plus great for the baby. Babies eat constantly and you have to have a life. You have to get the grocery store, repair tires, doctors appointments, bills and all kinds of things. No one's waiting around to help you. So you go out and do it. You bring the baby with you and then you feed it, plain and simple. Why should you have to go into a dirty latrine and sit on a filthy toilet with your baby to breast feed because someone doesn't understand it's just life already? But mostly I think it's for the babies sake. Those little guys eat every 45 minutes and if they don't get feed they get sick, and weak. If you ask a woman to stop feeding the baby what if she stopped and the kid wound up in a hospital? It could happen....
7It's just that people aren't used to seeing breasts in this country. Why don't they get a life and go see a topless beach somewhere and have a conniption there.
I agree with Roar. Boobs are food machines. And if you have a screaming infant, one of the first things you do is see if they're hungry. If you're in public, you shouldn't have to search for a bathroom in order to be able too feed your baby. I wouldn't want to eat in a public bathroom, so why should my (hypothetical) baby?
8I'm not a fan of women breast feeding in public. Stay at home. I have nothing against breasts in public, but breasts in use anywhere is a little too much. What if I'm trying to eat myself man?
9Restaurants, movie theaters...I can just imagine it now.
10"I understand that children need to eat, but it doesn't need to be dinner and a show."
LMAO!!!
Well with the exception of UnDave's lovely sister in-law most women are discreet about it.
The problem here is not the breast feeding mothers, the problem is a patriarchal society turning breast feeding into a sexual display. It's men who loose all control over their wieners as soon as they see a boob. That's the problem.
Honestly to have the feeding of an infant on the same level as fondling ones self or F'ing in the back seat of a car as indecent exposure is outrageous.
11Well if a man can walk around without his shirt on, a woman should be able to as well. A mans nipples have a many sensory perception as womens, so technically there is no difference between a mans breast and a woman's. The only difference is that a woman's swells to allow for milk production. Absolutely nothing sexual about that anymore than a womans stomach. I am totally for any law that decriminalizes breast feeding.
12Now with that said, while I am eating my dinner, I do not want to see a shirtless man. There fore I also do not want to see a shirtless woman. Once the baby is latched on, The blanket can be removed from over the shoulder, so the baby doesnt have to be eating in darkness, but it really wouldn't kill a woman to cover herself while the baby is latching on. I was at red robin once, and a woman with hugely large breasts just whipped one out right in front of me, it jiggled and it was nasty, then it took the baby about 10 minutes to actually latch on. It totally spoiled my dinner, and I am a breastfeeding advocate. A little modesty is not too much to ask, so I am with Undave on that one.
Un Dave, you sis doesnt live in cali does she ?? lol
13"I was at red robin once, and a woman with hugely large breasts just whipped one out right in front of me, it jiggled and it was nasty, then it took the baby about 10 minutes to actually latch on. It totally spoiled my dinner, and I am a breastfeeding advocate."
Hain for once I actually agree with pregnancy breasts are gross and I'm afraid many women won't use common sense or decency.
14Nothing against breast feeding, but stop acting like they don't have these nifty little contraptions called breast pumps for a reason.
15let them feed in public but cover it up please. I know breasts are for breastfeeding, but blankets are for covering up.
16I don't think its a "civil right" geez, what ISN'T a civil right anymore??
I don't have a problem with breastfeeding in public, I don't think the mother's first choice is to do it in front of everyone. I think most would rather have a quiet private place to do it, I've noticed in a lot of malls now they have special breastfeeding rooms. I love that! I wish more places would do that. If I were breastfeeding, I would try to shop excluviely at the mall that provides me with some kind of room, even if its just a little lobby attached to the ladies (like in most department stores).
17"Well with the exception of UnDave's lovely sister in-law most women are discreet about it."
Ummmm, she isn't lovely. She isn't even ok. If she was lovely, I don't think I'd mind...
"breasts are for breastfeeding, but blankets are for covering up."
A-men.
18"A mans nipples have a many sensory perception as women's"
Uhm I can vouch for that.
19This is neither here nor there, but I saw a woman in a bar last Saturday afternoon, beer in one hand, breastfeeding baby in the other.
I couldn't decide if I was skeeved or impressed by her chutzpah.
20I'm for breast feeding rights but I'm also a fan of modesty
21TS - My friend used to order wine when she was like 9 months preggo just to see what kind of dirty looks she'd get!
22I like the idea of breastfeeding rooms too. I'm sure a lot of women don't particularly seek out the MOST auspicious place to breastfeed, and would be happy to have a room they could relax in.
I also don't think new mothers should be hermits and not go out in public until they're done breastfeeding, just to appease people that think it's gross.
23I know breastfeeding women can drink some alcohol as long as they're careful with the timing and amount. It just made for a funny visual.
24I also don't think new mothers should be hermits and not go out in public until they're done breastfeeding, just to appease people that think it's gross.
True dat.
I feel that in general Americans are way more uptight about nudity than some of our friends in say, France. (Tulipe? Opinion/Insight?) (Not that in order to breastfeed one must be nude.) I find it amazing that a boob can cause so much outcry and has the power to put so many panties in a bunch!
I would definitely not be comfortable taking my shirt off completely in order to feed a baby and I wouldn't particularly love it if someone did that in front of me. I do wish however that it didn't bother me at all. Does that make sense?
25Well they do make Hooter Hiders and things to cover up with... I dunno. I'm not really on any side of this argument, it doesn't bother me to see it but I can see how some women may not be as modest as they could/should be.
26I think the bottom line is that most nursing mothers do practice modesty and don't want to turn it into some sort of burlesque peep show. Feeding babies is the first purpose of a woman's breasts. That is not to say that if you do not nurse or ever intend to have children that your breasts are useless, I am aware that they provide pleasure. Im just bothered that we sexualize the breast so much in this country that such a natural thing as breast feeding has become controversial.
27I don't mind breast feeding in public, but cover up. There are tons of ways to be discreet about breast feeding. Breast feeding does not have to be an "OMG I see her boobies" type deal.
28There have been so many efforts to punish women who breastfeed in public, that I can see why the law came about.
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29Health Surtax: “No, it’s not punishing the rich. If I can afford to do a little bit more so that a whole bunch of families out there have a little more security, when I already have security, that’s part of being a community."
It totally grosses me out. But i realize i'm just one of a few. However, i think it mostly bothers me because most women I've seen doing it choose NOT to practice modesty.
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30" My friend used to order wine when she was like 9 months preggo just to see what kind of dirty looks she'd get!"
My sister (Not skb) went through the checkout line with a 6-pack of beer, and a pregnancy test, complaigning about how fat she was getting, just to give the cashier a shock.
31"It totally grosses me out"
Wow really, I think it's beautiful.
32I honestly can't believe that I'm the only one to comment on breast pumps. When you pump your milk at home, you can give your baby a bottle in public places.
33I'm pretty bothered by some of the comments on this thread. If a woman breastfeeding her child bothers you or is something you consider "gross", I think the problem is yours and you need to check your maturity.
I don't agree with this law. While I do believe that women should be allowed to breastfeed in many places such as restaurants, malls, etc., I believe that decision should be left up to the property owners. If we disagree with their decisions, there are other ways to make the point heard. This law seems overly broad, obviously there are some places where breast feeding is not appropriate.
34Brandy, using a breast pump is really more practical for a woman who is separated from her child. She must still pump as often as she would be breast feeding so that she continues to produce milk. Does it really make sense for her to waste extra time pumping when she could just be directly feeding her child? Simply because immature people have a problem with a breast performing one of its natural functions?
35A friend of mine breast fed, and she had a freezer full of breast milk, and a couple in the fridge ready. That way, when she was leaving the house, she could have bottles ready to go. Seems rather practical to me. A child isn't feeding every minute of the day, there is time to pump some extra milk.
36Brandy, what was practical for your friend is not practical for every mother. Every woman's schedule and breast feeding experience is different.
37Also Brandy, as Micehlann said, "Does it really make sense for her to waste extra time pumping when she could just be directly feeding her child? Simply because immature people have a problem with a breast performing one of its natural functions?" Most women pump because they will be away from their child, not to appease those who can't stand the sight of a nursing baby.
38mich - I don't think it's my maturity that needs to be checked. I just dont like it, it's a personal opinion, doesn't make it wrong. I think of breasts as sexual. That's all i know, and that's all I will ever know. If i did have a child that breastfed, i could never look at my husband the same if he then wanted to get frisky with them at any point in time after seeing my child feed. That would be beyond creepy for me.
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39also, i feel it's a very personal thing between a mother and her baby. i guess if a mother wants it for the public to see then that's fine. but i myself would appreciate modesty, something which i do not see much of in the situation unfortunately.
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40"I'm pretty bothered by some of the comments on this thread. If a woman breastfeeding her child bothers you or is something you consider "gross", I think the problem is yours and you need to check your maturity."
I agree. If you have a problem seeing a woman breast feed, the problem isn't with the attractiveness or lack of modesty of the mother, the problem lies with you.
Breasts may have been sexualized by our society, but their natural, real purpose is to provide food for a baby. Like it or not, that is what they are there for. Why should a woman be stigmatized for feeding her child the way nature intended her too?
41i never said she should be stigmatized, mothers need to practice modesty. i would practice modesty if i breastfed, but granted, i wouldn't do it in public either. i dont want people seeing any parts of my body that shouldn't be seen. there are a lot of creeps in the world that get off on that type of thing.
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42IMO - We should spend less time worrying about breastfeeding mothers, and more time about people, ALL PEOPLE, in spandex. Can't we outlaw it already? It's been like 15 years since it went out of style, and it isn't flattering on anyone, except those who are a size 0....
43i don't need to be told there is something wrong with me. totally uncalled for. if you have a problem with my comment, fine. but saying there is something wrong with ME, when you dont know me, and you dont know how modest i am is totally off base.
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44I'm pretty bothered by some of the comments on this thread. If a woman breastfeeding her child bothers you or is something you consider "gross", I think the problem is yours and you need to check your maturity.
Mich, I agree with you on this. A lot of these comments (specifically from women) are quite disheartening. And I agree with Hypno in that the patriarchal society has completely devalued the actual function of the female breast. Just the idea that some think the breast is sexual (PERIOD) seems insane to me. Does that mean that a cow's teet is now only sexual, because both parts serve the EXACT same function...a natural food source.
45"Does that mean that a cow's teet is now only sexual, because both parts serve the EXACT same function...a natural food source."
Excellent analogy, tia. But since male cows don't read, I don't know, "Udderly Hot", then I guess the female cows have it easier than us, eh?
I find the opinions about breasts being only sexual a little disheartening too. I'm not the most earth mother-y woman in the world, but I do think there is something pretty amazing about being able to essentially give life to someone else with something that comes from your breasts. I appreciate a nice rack as much as the next chick, but I think they can (should?) be seen as something aesthetically pleasing and, well, life-giving.
46I just want to comment on the pumping issue. When I was nursing my son, I had to quit at 3 months because I wasn't producing enough milk for my beast of a child. I tried so hard to pump extra milk for an in case situation. I would nurse him, and them immediately pump. I would get maybe an ounce or 2. I would have to pump after feeding him every single time during the day just to get 1 small bottle. Most women aren't like a spigot, where you just turn on the pump and out it comes. Breasts make milk based on the needs of a child. And it is not as easy for every mother as it was for your friend. Now I do know some women who could feed their child, pump and get 6-8 ounces. But it is absolutely absurd to put you inability to accept something natural over the needs of a baby. Also there are a lot of babies that get nipple confusion when given a bottle. And it then makes it hard to get them to breastfeed. Again, needs of the baby should supersede an inability to look past sexualization of breasts.
47I am sensitive to this because I really wanted to nurse my child, but had a hard time doing so. It takes a lot of work from most women, and so a little support and not freaking out when you happen to see a boob in public is not too much to ask.
"I am sensitive to this because I really wanted to nurse my child, but had a hard time doing so. It takes a lot of work from most women, and so a little support and not freaking out when you happen to see a boob in public is not too much to ask."
Aww, hain. I'm sorry about that. Thanks for sharing that perspective.
48I don't understand why we are so squemish about breasts in this country. A woman takes off her shirt in public and it is like highly scandelous. We need to shield the eyes of innocent children. And if it is an "unattractive" woman exposing herself?
Oh the horror!
Meanwhile any disgusting slob of a man can take his shirt off all he wants and it is socially acceptable.
We may not like it, but he won't be arrested for indecent exposure.
I just don't think our attitude towards breasts is healthy and most of these issues with breast feeding in public seems to stem from this attitude.
49I've seen many a disgusting man driving with his shirt off. Ick.
We are pretty prudish as a country. I can't think of any European countries that have a problem with breastfeeding in public... are there any?
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