You know how going green guides recommend shopping at second hand stores for gently used items? It may be good for the earth, but bad for your credit...
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Here's a word to the wise: Think twice before whipping out that credit card to pay for purchases at the Salvation Army or a discount store, have tires re-treaded or even buy a late-night round of drinks. Credit card companies see those purchases, and a slew of others, as a sign of real or impending financial trouble and they'll quickly cut the credit limit, raise the interest rate or even cancel the card with no warning. Once that happens the credit score that determines who is worthy of a loan and at what rate usually plummets.
In May, President Obama signed a bill that will limit some of the worst practices of credit card companies that have been raising rates with little reason and without notice and charging obscene late fees. The bill also requires that banking regulators study the practice of using information about where a person shops to assessing credit worthiness. That means credit card companies, which are already raising rates and cutting credit limits before the new law goes into effect in January, are likely to continue keep track of where and how their customers spend money until at least 2011.
Credit card companies purchase their customer's spending record from reporting companies like Equifax, which gather it by using sophisticated computer programs to "data mine" spending by individuals. The practice allows companies to develop a disturbingly complete picture of people based on not just their buying habits but also specific purchases.
Here are a few other activities that experts say could trigger a hard look from credit card issuers.
• Using a card to bail out that no-good brother-in-law, to get a massage or to employ the services of an escort.
• Charging items at auto parts or grocery stores. Both are seen as a sign of financial distress.
• Charging items at pawn shops, drug stores and shoe repair shops. All can be a warning of someone down at the heels.
• Paying for court costs, child support or alimony with a credit card.
• Charging medical care and child care.
• Charging beer, wine or liquor.
Lenders have a responsibility to assess the creditworthiness of borrowers and debtors. The failure to do that was one of the reasons the housing market collapsed and took the rest of the economy down with it. When lenders - typically an officer at a hometown bank - knew their customers that was easy to do. Today, in most cases, that's know longer possible, and like all modern lenders, credit card companies are right to make an effort to assess risk. It's also in every credit-card user's interest that they do so, since everyone pays a bit more when borrowers default on their loans.
The problem is in the ham-handed, one-size-fits-all way credit card companies and their computer programs use spending information. It makes no sense to penalize frugality. Someone who shops regularly at thrift stores despite earning a good income is certainly a better credit risk than someone who regularly runs a balance on a department store card.
Similarly, there can be lots of reasons for someone to charge groceries or use a card to pay to have a favorite pair of shoes resoled.
Depending on what federal regulators find, the use of data mining and shopping analysis could be refined, limited or perhaps even prohibited in the future. In the meantime, to protect both their privacy and their credit rating, smart shoppers, when making any purchase that might alarm lenders, should use a debit card or good old cash.
http://www.cmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090712/OPINION/9071...
sweatyBetty
Yes, I saw this on the news two nights ago. I find it outrageous. I swear any CC Co. that cries to congress about regulation can kiss booty. The nerve of these money grubbing vultures blows my mind!
1This is ridiculous! I have a credit card that puts a percentage of total charged into a 529 for my kid's education. I seriously use that card for everything - shopping, groceries, gas, any recurring bills that I can automatically charge to a card. I then pay it off, in full, each month. Sounds like I could be penalized for that.
2I know lots of people who do that Martini, I was really surprised by some things on the list.
3I used to work in the CC department for a major bank and they always kept track of where you used your card. I would have to look over peoples expenses on their cards before I could transfer them to some one who could do a more thorough look to raise your limit. I have two cards and am in the process of getting down to one. Keeping the card that has the better rewards program and using it for simple monthly charges like utilities and gas. It helps to keep the line of credit open but I don't overspend because it is all mostly set monthly purchases.
4This may backfire on them.
A lot of business people use credit cards for everything as this makes it SO easy to document purchases for the IRS.
Now many banks are offering an itemized spreadsheet on debit cards so many people may just refrain from "allowing" a credit card company from doing things like this.
In a way I consider this an invasion of privacy, on another I see it as being openly biased---so I can't wait for the ACLU to decide to attack them. This can be seen as highly prejudicial...and I wonder if they are looking at addresses where these purchases are being made as well.
I get gas in a bad neighborhood at least once or twice a month and use my card because I won't carry cash there...so will I be penalized because of where I bought something as well as what I bought?
In this frame of thinking---one might wonder why they thump you for charging a bottle of wine...but not thump someone else for cigarettes(as smokers are more likely to die than someone who has a glass of wine each night)
What you buy shouldn't be an issue if you pay your debts in the time period requested. It should be irrelevant.
5oh man, i use my cc for everything too! i get 5% cashback on whatever is the deal of the season (grocery, gas, dept stores etc). i wonder if the same will happen if i use my debit card or use my debit card for credit...
6I know many people who pay their balances off in full. I've actually had two friends get their credit line reduced because the credit card companies said they 'didn't need that much credit'. I'm sure reductions in credit lines can't be good for your credit either.
7On a side note I never understood using credit cards as a second form of ID. That always baffled me because I would have other thing with my actual photo on it but nope they wanted my credit card as a second ID.
8I used to give them my library card and if they wouldn't take it as a second ID I always demanded an explanation as to why. You'd be surprised at how many times they didn't have an answer. Now it is a game I play all the time and my next statement is "I'll show you my credit card if you show me yours" as it is only fair don't you think?
9I don't buy it. Where you purchase must hold marginal significance. I charge everything, even at Salvo, and I have stellar credit.
It seems like a pretty outrageous practice. But, all of risk management is a game of numbers. Somewhere out there, someone's research says that certain purchases correlate to delinquent accounts. The companies are trying to protect themselves. It's the same reason why people with poor credit tend to pay more for auto insurance- there are stats somewhere that say that those folks are more likely to have claims. Right or wrong... that's how it works...
10I think it is a little creepy to have people looking at my credit card expenses, but I could understand why a CC company would do this. i think the CC company can determine the difference between those that put all their purchases on the card and pay it off every month versus the people they are speaking of in this article. They are looking for questionable spending habits. And if you are paying another credit card with their credit card, that is not a good sign. when you have to use a credit card to purchase things from the salvation army, again probably not a good sign. They may be some shady MFers some times, but in the end they are protecting their bottom line and I don't blame them one bit. You don't have to purchase things on credit. We are a spoiled society.
11I read about this but my impression was that changing your habits was more the issue. So, if you neve shopped at Wal-Mart but suddenly you start, that's a red flag. I'm like Martini, I charge everything and pay it off every month. I haven't had any issues, and in fact they recently raised my credit limit. (I don't know why, I never even use a quarter of it.)
12I never carry cash since I was mugged. You steal my purse you just get crap...my ID and credit card is hidden on my body. For 8 years I worked in Crenshaw district(very scary place) there from 8pm to 8am...a target. I had to load and unload my equipment in the dark parking lots.
I have credit cards but only carry my debit card. My other card only come out of the closet when I go shopping. Everything gets paid off every month. My credit history was damaged when I was mugged...credit agencies see me as a target to continually victimize. When I realized that by paying off my card each month actually hurt my credit it ticked me off. Why punish me for not wanting to pay more than the fees I already gotta pay? I just think the way the go about "rating" people is not logical.
13Post A Comment
To post comments, please log in or register.